October 23, 2008 · Written by Steve M ·
This is unbelievable. Since Congress has totally screwed up Social Security and refuse to do a damn thing about it, now they are looking for more cash to fund their out-of-control spending. Since we know we can not depend on Social Security for our retirement, many smart investors are depending on 401(k)k accounts, IRAs and Roth IRAs.
All three offer tax breaks either now or in the future and get this, a couple of Democrats don’t think they are getting enough for their investment. Their investment? They have the gall to think that $80 million in tax breaks provided to 401k investors is an investment. It’s our damn money!
Hot tip goes to LGF for this one, and here is the original article in Workforce Week. My emphasis added in bold.
Powerful House Democrats are eying proposals to overhaul the nation’s $3 trillion 401(k) system, including the elimination of most of the $80 billion in annual tax breaks that 401(k) investors receive.
House Education and Labor Committee Chairman George Miller, D-California, and Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Washington, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee’s Subcommittee on Income Security and Family Support, are looking at redirecting those tax breaks to a new system of guaranteed retirement accounts to which all workers would be obliged to contribute.
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Under Ghilarducci’s [Teresa Ghilarducci, professor of economic-policy analysis at the New School for Social Research in New York] plan, all workers would receive a $600 annual inflation-adjusted subsidy from the U.S. government but would be required to invest 5 percent of their pay into a guaranteed retirement account administered by the Social Security Administration. The money in turn would be invested in special government bonds that would pay 3 percent a year, adjusted for inflation.
The current system of providing tax breaks on 401(k) contributions and earnings would be eliminated.
“I want to stop the federal subsidy of 401(k)s,” Ghilarducci said in an interview. “401(k)s can continue to exist, but they won’t have the benefit of the subsidy of the tax break.”
Under the current 401(k) system, investors are charged relatively high retail fees, Ghilarducci said.
“I want to spend our nation’s dollar for retirement security better. Everybody would now be covered” if the plan were adopted, Ghilarducci said.
It’s not your damn money to spend Ghilarducci.
The savings rate isn’t going up for the investment of $80 billion,” he [House Education and Labor Committee Chairman George Miller, D-Calif.] said. “We have to start to think about … whether or not we want to continue to invest that $80 billion for a policy that’s not generating what we now say it should.”
These politicians want to get their hands on your personal retirement accounts. This is money invested - 100 percent - by you and in many cases your employer. Since tax breaks are involved and the damn politicians need more money from you to give to others and spread the wealth, they clearly are considering just taking it from you.
If the tax breaks go away, employers will stop their contributions and many employees will stop investing their own money, but that’s OK, since the government will demand you invest 5 percent into government bonds administered by the Social Security Administration.
Are you kidding me?
Just wait. Do you think your Roth IRA investments will be safe from government hacks that think you don’t deserve to keep your own money? The return on your Roth IRA investments are currently 100 percent tax free, but I guaranty you that liberals will want to tax that money in the future since people will have invested and “gained more than their fair share” in the stock market.
Original text, if it is still there.
Article on MSN
Money, same topic.
Answer from Wyden
Dear Mr. and Mrs. Burke:
Thank you for contacting me about proposals regarding 401(k) retirement accounts. I appreciate hearing from you on this important issue and I apologize for the delay in my response.
As you may know, the House Committee on Education and Labor held two hearings in October about how the credit crisis has been hurting retirement security. Among the proposals discussed was an idea to eliminate 401(k) plans and replace them with a different retirement system in order to ensure higher savings per taxpayer dollar.
You may be pleased to know that no legislation to enact such a proposal was introduced in the 110th Congress, nor so far in the 111th Congress. Please be assured, should legislation on this issue come before me in the Senate, I will keep your views in mind.
Again, thank you for keeping me apprised of the issues that are important to you. If I may ever be of further assistance to you in the future, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Sincerely,